Matt Timoko starts by outlining his desire to become one of the NRL's elite defenders and then tells you: "To be the best, you've got to beat the best."
Which is fitting, because this weekend he quite literally takes on the Best - of the Bradman variety.
Star centres Timoko and Best will go head-to-head when the Canberra Raiders face the Newcastle Knights at a full house in an elimination final on Sunday.